by kaziam
travvller wrote:
As a bit of an iconoclast I do take offense to your false comparisons.
Comparing King of Tokyo to Yahtzee is a false comparison? The core mechanic of King of Tokyo is Yahtzee. Obviously they are not equivalent, but they are comparable.
travvller wrote:
I have expressed my dislike of Kingdom Builder, 7 Wonders, Alien Frontiers, and Carcassonne, among others. But at the end of the day I have to realize my dislike is not shared by others and that people have their own reasons for liking a game. It could be as simple as they play with different people than I do! I still stand by my criticisms of these games, but that doesn't mean the people who like those games are lemmings.
And that's what you've done here. Anyone who likes this game is a moron. We get it. We don't understand that this game offers no real choices. Only you do. Got it.
I'm not calling anyone a moron. If someone feels like a moron because they enjoy a Yahtzee derivative game, then that's their own gamer elitism guilt. Yahtzee is a fine, classic game with 31 fans on BGG that stands with Boggle, Scrabble, Pictionary and Monopoly as an extremely popular, extremely accessible game.
King of Tokyo does offer more choice than Yahtzee (2 more choices to be exact). It is more visually and thematically appealing. I'm not sure that I agree that choosing among claws/energy/VP/hearts is "subtle strategy" that I am missing, but I agree that it is different from just collecting sets.
But other than pressing your luck in Tokyo, the only way to get VP is through collecting VP Yahtzees. So Yahtzee is clearly embedded into the game, hence the comparison.
If you're suggesting that I'm insulting the fans of King of Tokyo, then you didn't read the review. Here is part of it again (emphasis added):
kaziam wrote:
Obviously there are many other people who absolutely love this game. They love the cute cartoony monster art, the nice chunky dice, the glossy thick cardboard, the chest-thumping trash talk when you kick someone out of Tokyo. How can they be wrong? I'm not saying they are
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Some of the dissenters to my dissent actually agree with my criticisms of the game, but state that they overlook them because it's a filler. Personally, I prefer more filling in my fillers.
Disclaimer: I have not played King of Tokyo 100 times to fully appreciate its Caylus-like intricacies and carpal tunnel inducing dice rolling but feel that this is not a game that requires "deep analysis" to form an opinion. I admit that it offers choices to players, just not any choices I found fun or interesting.